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		<title>By: Mr. Dings</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62057</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moderates unite!  And moderate...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moderates unite!  And moderate&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Dings</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62055</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I Don&#039;t Believe in Atheists critiques the radical mindset that rages against religion and faith. Hedges identifies the pillars of the new atheist belief system, revealing that the stringent rules and rigid traditions in place are as strict as those of any religious practice.

Hedges claims that those who have placed blind faith in the morally neutral disciplines of reason and science create idols in their own image -- a sin for either side of the spectrum. He makes an impassioned, intelligent case against religious and secular fundamentalism, which seeks to divide the world into those worthy of moral and intellectual consideration and those who should be condemned, silenced and eradicated. Hedges shatters the new atheists&#039; assault against religion in America, and in doing so, makes way for new, moderate voices to join the debate. This is a book that must be read to understand the state of the battle about faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I Don&#8217;t Believe in Atheists critiques the radical mindset that rages against religion and faith. Hedges identifies the pillars of the new atheist belief system, revealing that the stringent rules and rigid traditions in place are as strict as those of any religious practice.</p>
<p>Hedges claims that those who have placed blind faith in the morally neutral disciplines of reason and science create idols in their own image &#8212; a sin for either side of the spectrum. He makes an impassioned, intelligent case against religious and secular fundamentalism, which seeks to divide the world into those worthy of moral and intellectual consideration and those who should be condemned, silenced and eradicated. Hedges shatters the new atheists&#8217; assault against religion in America, and in doing so, makes way for new, moderate voices to join the debate. This is a book that must be read to understand the state of the battle about faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Dings</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62054</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since we&#039;re merely human (angels that shit, according to Kierkegaard), no world view is seamless.  But, since there are many who think theirs is, let the blood keep letting...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we&#8217;re merely human (angels that shit, according to Kierkegaard), no world view is seamless.  But, since there are many who think theirs is, let the blood keep letting&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Dings</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62052</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 23:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe in atheists:

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Believe-Atheists-Chris-Hedges/dp/141656795X

(Chris Hedges... who graduated from seminary at Harvard Divinity School)...observes that there are two radical, polarized and dangerous sides to the debate on faith and religion in America: the fundamentalists who see religious faith as their prerogative, and the new atheists who brand all religious belief as irrational and dangerous. Both sides use faith to promote a radical agenda, while the religious majority, those with a commitment to tolerance and compassion as well as to their faith, are caught in the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe in atheists:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Believe-Atheists-Chris-Hedges/dp/141656795X" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Believe-Atheists-Chris-Hedges/dp/141656795X</a></p>
<p>(Chris Hedges&#8230; who graduated from seminary at Harvard Divinity School)&#8230;observes that there are two radical, polarized and dangerous sides to the debate on faith and religion in America: the fundamentalists who see religious faith as their prerogative, and the new atheists who brand all religious belief as irrational and dangerous. Both sides use faith to promote a radical agenda, while the religious majority, those with a commitment to tolerance and compassion as well as to their faith, are caught in the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: Bentnotesmanhisself</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62004</link>
		<dc:creator>Bentnotesmanhisself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the many millions of reasons I hate the song &quot;Imagine&quot; deeply and viscerally is the line, &quot;Nothing to kill or die for.&quot;  Whenever I hear some choir of &quot;young people&quot; sing that at some public event, my blood boils at the incalculable damage John Lennon did to western civilization&#039;s prospects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the many millions of reasons I hate the song &#8220;Imagine&#8221; deeply and viscerally is the line, &#8220;Nothing to kill or die for.&#8221;  Whenever I hear some choir of &#8220;young people&#8221; sing that at some public event, my blood boils at the incalculable damage John Lennon did to western civilization&#8217;s prospects.</p>
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		<title>By: Bentnotesmanhisself</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62002</link>
		<dc:creator>Bentnotesmanhisself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wariness of seamless worldviews.  We gotta work on that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wariness of seamless worldviews.  We gotta work on that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Dings</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-62001</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man, bloggie finally admits there&#039;s &quot;a man,&quot; if not da man!  I personally am wary of seamless world views.  Have you checked out the universe lately?  It doth seem to be as indifferent to us as we generally are to it. Gotta be flexible these days.  And that&#039;s a great hope!  All is likely an illusion anyhow.  Admitting ignorance is the beginning of enlightenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, bloggie finally admits there&#8217;s &#8220;a man,&#8221; if not da man!  I personally am wary of seamless world views.  Have you checked out the universe lately?  It doth seem to be as indifferent to us as we generally are to it. Gotta be flexible these days.  And that&#8217;s a great hope!  All is likely an illusion anyhow.  Admitting ignorance is the beginning of enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bentnotesmanhisself</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-61995</link>
		<dc:creator>Bentnotesmanhisself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, true right-wing-ism has a fair amount in common with that whole Tony Robbins / Zig Ziglar / motivational bag.  The basic message is &quot;Don&#039;t let anybody tell you you can&#039;t be fabulous and excellent.  Don&#039;t let garbage or nonsense into your life or mind.  Refuse to be a victim of anything.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, true right-wing-ism has a fair amount in common with that whole Tony Robbins / Zig Ziglar / motivational bag.  The basic message is &#8220;Don&#8217;t let anybody tell you you can&#8217;t be fabulous and excellent.  Don&#8217;t let garbage or nonsense into your life or mind.  Refuse to be a victim of anything.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bentnotesmanhisself</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-61992</link>
		<dc:creator>Bentnotesmanhisself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 18:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Miller&#039;s refreshing and delightful.

Perhaps the most interesting evolution of all has been Christopher Hitchens.  To think he started out selling Trotskyist newspapers on a London street corner.

A for your &quot;man,&quot; to the extent there is such a thing, it&#039;s not really the movement conservative but rather what Rush calls the country-club blue-blood Republican, the small-town patriarch Sinclair Lewis was depicting in Babbitt, the kind of guy who encourages civic boosterism so as to keep the rabble from getting any cosmopolitan fancy-pants ideas about changing the status quo or really doing anything of substance.  Rush says that they regularly come up to him at his personal appearances and whisper to him, &quot;Can&#039;t you do anything about keeping these anti-abortion zealots from detracting from our economic issues?&quot;  The kind of person whose vision is so narrow that their foreign policy consists of &quot;Hey, just so long as I have a market for my widgets I don&#039;t care who blows who up.&quot;
Heaven forfend that somebody might really have deep convictions and a seamless worldview!

So, as I say, if there is a &quot;man,&quot; that&#039;s him, broadly characterized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Miller&#8217;s refreshing and delightful.</p>
<p>Perhaps the most interesting evolution of all has been Christopher Hitchens.  To think he started out selling Trotskyist newspapers on a London street corner.</p>
<p>A for your &#8220;man,&#8221; to the extent there is such a thing, it&#8217;s not really the movement conservative but rather what Rush calls the country-club blue-blood Republican, the small-town patriarch Sinclair Lewis was depicting in Babbitt, the kind of guy who encourages civic boosterism so as to keep the rabble from getting any cosmopolitan fancy-pants ideas about changing the status quo or really doing anything of substance.  Rush says that they regularly come up to him at his personal appearances and whisper to him, &#8220;Can&#8217;t you do anything about keeping these anti-abortion zealots from detracting from our economic issues?&#8221;  The kind of person whose vision is so narrow that their foreign policy consists of &#8220;Hey, just so long as I have a market for my widgets I don&#8217;t care who blows who up.&#8221;<br />
Heaven forfend that somebody might really have deep convictions and a seamless worldview!</p>
<p>So, as I say, if there is a &#8220;man,&#8221; that&#8217;s him, broadly characterized.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Dings</title>
		<link>http://barneyquick.net/blog/2008/05/23/what-should-be-obvious-is-screamingly-obscure/comment-page-1/#comment-61946</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Dings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 13:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for me and Voight, well we were both born Catholic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for me and Voight, well we were both born Catholic.</p>
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