12.20.08
Freedom and prosperity hatred – coming to a once-great country near you
The Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Iaian Murray on The Anointed One’s environmental team, and CEI’s David Johnson on his science advisors.
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Posted in Environment policy at 2:12 pm by Administrator
The Competitive Enterprise Institute’s Iaian Murray on The Anointed One’s environmental team, and CEI’s David Johnson on his science advisors.
MR. Dings said,
December 20, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Who hates prosperity? Nobody I talk to loves what the Bush and the last 4 Congress’ legacies are as we are deep in this do do that’s all but done, done and nearly done us in. We always blame the president. That’s what we do and O better know that going in. Anyhow, fixing the environment will be as futile as fixing the base human nature that brung us this juncture, but at least it might create jobs to throw newly minted money at. May the greed grubbingist (here it’s called enterprising) amongst us figure out how to make a buck on it.
MR. Dings said,
December 20, 2008 at 2:55 pm
The goons are still busting pot smokers and growers though, wherever and whenever they can. They gotta earn their pay. The feds continue to ignore state-passed legislation and there is a whole cadre of hired guns out there still ready to bust down your door and throw you in the hoosegow unless you behave. Piss testing is big biz too. All sorts of gigs still out there for freedom and happiness (the pursuit thereof) haters. We might consider beefing up our corporate honor patrols.
MR. Dings said,
December 20, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Yeah, happy day. For a few. For awhile. The auto magnates and their workers. Yeah! Gotta love their prosperity. On our dime. Brother, can you spare one?
Bentnotesmanhisself said,
December 20, 2008 at 4:45 pm
1.) The illegality of pot is not a very important subject in our national conversation. If someone thinks it is important, he or she can join or start groups, petition their lawmakers, write editorials and blog.
2.) As I’ve said about five times in recent discussion threads, here at BN we don’t have much good to say about the auto bailout.
3.) W’s legacy is lower taxes, which led to a robust economy for seven of his eight years.
4.) If green jobs are created without a market for them, that means the government will have to do it, which means they’ll be subsidized, which means we’ll pay for them with our tax dollars, which will prolong and deepen the current downturn.
MR. Dings said,
December 20, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Pot legalization is not very important to this voter either, but freedom and prosperity are and there are plenty in our government, then and now, that talk outta both sides of their mouth and this 40 years war against our own people does matter!
That robust economy you say we had for 7 years was built on a lie and the truth is out now. Lower taxes are great! Even O is on to that.
There is a market for green jobs. We the people have created it. Just like there was a market for all sorts of suck asses and sychophants for “opportunities” like whiplash, mold remediation, TMJ, Y2K, building fences to keep the wetbacks out, busting potheads, rehabilitating alkies (until the bean counters woke up and realized nobody but the drunk him/herself is gonna make the admission and thereby take the cure, analyzing piss, etc. If you must have a market for someone to make $$ off it, well, there you go. Not that it must have a chance at success or anything, just make a market….
Bentnotesmanhisself said,
December 20, 2008 at 9:09 pm
What was the lie?
Bentnotesmanhisself said,
December 20, 2008 at 10:56 pm
We’ve created a market for green jobs? Hoo boy, does that one need some further ’splainin. What kind of business enterprise is prepared to hire large numbers of people in these green jobs? Or, to address the market side of the equation, what that’s green is the public willing to shell out big bucks for?
There’s a market for the kind of fence you mention, because large numbers of Americans don’t want the kind of erosion of the rule of law and dilution of our culture that comes from letting illegal aliens flood in here.
MR. Dings said,
December 21, 2008 at 1:49 am
The market created for green jobs has already been created. Hey, I don’t think that, given the current preponderance of evidence, global warming is necessarily caused by man, but the current ecological crisis as evidenced by mass extinction of species hitherto unknown to man is. It is obvious that we have and continue to pollute our water and air, so there is and will continue to be a green market for those who come up with solutions for that. The nobel prize and every other prize known to man (as well as bukoo bucks) await those who unlock the door to cold fusion, teleportation, anti-gravity devices and the like and, when that day comes, what will the greed bucket do, because we will all be free. Perhaps then the word “winner” will be uttered with the same sneer that “loser” was in the pre-depression era. Because the winners merely wrecked it for all of us. Indeed, I can see the last (and the pure in heart and spirit) becoming first when there is no longer anything to make yourself special for. Something wicked this way has already come and, well, here we are.
MR. Dings said,
December 21, 2008 at 1:51 am
Oh, the lie? It was that it was all real rather than a gamble. And we lost.
Bentnotesmanhisself said,
December 21, 2008 at 3:14 pm
You still haven’t ansered my questions. Where are the hordes of consumers lining up to buy green products?
MR. Dings said,
December 23, 2008 at 12:39 am
OK, lemme explain. The first Earth Day was in 1970, right? At that time it was a hippie thing. There was a green market then, beginning with organic food and consumables, the inimitable rice burners many of us bought and drove, on into the 80s, contractors, engineers, architects, skilled and unskilled construction workers etc. involved in constructing sewage plants, controlling emissions from factories, the like involved in conforming to new pollution standards for motor vehicles, and on and on. This revolution is 4 decades old.
I haven’t read 3 time Pulitzer Prize winning author Thomas Friedman’s book yet, but catch his opinionage in the NYT and Time from time to time. He updates us on all this. Again, I am not saying global warming is man-made, but there is indeed something rotten in the state of the environment and we have known about it since Rachel Carson’s work in the 50s. Add lawyers, doctors, drug companies, pharmacists, and almost every one to the mix of who has capitalized on our green efforts so far and who will in the future. There, of course you’re not satisfied and will call us both freedom lovers.
http://www.thomaslfriedman.com/
As in The World Is Flat, he explains a new era—the Energy-Cliate era—through an illuminating account of recent events. He shows how 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, and the flattening of the world by the Internet (which brought 3 billion new consumers onto the world stage) have combined to bring climate and energy issues to Main Street. But they have not gone very far down Main Street; the much-touted “green revolution” has hardly begun. With all that in mind, Friedman sets out the clean-technology breakthroughs we, and the world, will need; he shows that the ET (Energy Technology) revolution will be both transformative and disruptive; and he explains why America must lead this revolution—with the first Green President and a Green New Deal, spurred by the Greenest Generation.
Now clean up the barf, if you choose.
MR. Dings said,
December 23, 2008 at 12:41 am
I mean, freedom haters. Sorry to mispeg you there. My bad.
MR. Dings said,
December 23, 2008 at 2:11 pm
Remember Charles Reich’s book “The Greening of America,? published circa 1970.
Here’s another article for you to digest @ http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/gate/archive/2007/05/02/notes050207.DTL&nl=fix
The Hippies Were Right!
Green homes? Organic food? Nature is good? Time to give the ol’ tie-dyers some respect
Just google “hippies right”
MR. Dings said,
December 23, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Regarding the dark side, Shirley Jackson was right too, Reread “The Lottery,” first published in the NYr, 1948. Silly human race.