02.03.09

Now who will oversee the socialist takeover of health care?

Posted in Corruption, Ideology, Islam at 6:24 pm by Administrator

Tom Daschle withdraws his HHS nomination.

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  1. MR. Dings said,

    February 4, 2009 at 12:03 am

    Looks real bad, two resignations and one approval for tax evaders. Heard a radio commentator wondering what the difference was between them and Al Capone who was imprisoned for it.

  2. Bentnotesmanhisself said,

    February 4, 2009 at 12:34 am

    Indeed.
    BTW, did you see the Gallup numbers for eroding support for the “stimulus plan?”
    Hurt and damaged – that’s how we want our Freedom-haters.

  3. MR. Dings said,

    February 4, 2009 at 11:49 am

    Can you update me on your plans to assist Americans with their health care coverage (either to obtain it or to be able to afford it)? Evidently some corps. that got govt. bail out $$$ are of course using it to pay health care and insurance bills. Many other countries have it too. Of course you will continue to call it a socialist takeover. How much do you pay for the coverage for yourself these days?

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/567737

    Annual Census Bureau estimates released in August show 47 million people, or 15.8 percent of the U.S. population, were without health insurance during 2006 — a 4.9 percent increase. In 2005, census figures showed that 44.8 million people, or about 15.3 percent of the population, lacked health insurance coverage. The number of uninsured Americans has increased 22 percent since 2000, at which time 38.4 million people lacked health insurance.

    Fewer Americans had employer-based coverage in 2006, the new data show. The percentage of people covered by employer plans fell from 60.2 percent in 2005 to 59.7 percent in 2006, according to the report, “Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States.”

  4. MR. Dings said,

    February 4, 2009 at 12:01 pm

    And what do we do in this current age of 10% unemployment? Let them eat what? I know, I know, not government’s job. Here in our free land that is functioning so well, so freely, these days.

    http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/136766.php

    Nine percent of unemployed workers who are eligible to continue their health coverage under COBRA do so, but most workers cannot afford the coverage, according to a recent report by the Commonwealth Fund, the Wall Street Journal reports. COBRA allows recently laid-off workers to remain on their employer-sponsored health plan for up to 18 months. Workers are responsible for the full cost of the coverage as well as a 2% administrative fee. COBRA costs an average of $13,000 annually for family coverage, compared with the average annual employee contribution of $3,200 for family coverage (McQueen, Wall Street Journal, 1/24).

  5. Bentnotesmanhisself said,

    February 4, 2009 at 2:19 pm

    Well, you know, you know, not the government’s job.

  6. MR. Dings said,

    February 4, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    I see that you are using a very perjorative phrase for a ystem of medical care that is publicly financed, government administered, or both. You make it sound nasty and dirty.

    According to the Institute of Medicine and others, the United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care.

    The term is often used in the U.S. to evoke negative sentiment toward public control of the health care system by associating it with socialism, which has negative connotations in American political culture. As such its usage is controversial. A 2008 poll indicates that Americans are sharply divided when asked about their views of the expression socialized medicine, with a large percentage of Democrats holding favorable views, while a large percentage of Republicans hold unfavorable views. Independents tend to somewhat favor it.

  7. MR. Dings said,

    February 4, 2009 at 4:10 pm

    http://magazine.jhsph.edu/2007/Fall/features/fix_this_mess/

    To detail the complexity of the nation’s health care woes would fill volumes. Simply put: “It’s a mess,” says Jonathan Weiner, an expert in health care organization and financing, and an HPM professor.

    How bad is it? A May 2007 Commonwealth Fund study, which has compared the U.S. to five other industrialized countries since 2004, ranks the U.S. system last on its scorecard. The United States spends more than other nations, yet scores lowest on measurable parameters—quality of care, access to care, efficiencies of the global health care system, equity of care and health outcomes.

    I have heard that, just maybe, just maybe, it is the health insurance companies that both caused the escalation in medical care costs and vigorously lobbies to maintain the status quo. Da suits are at it again. But keep up your hyperbole and scare tactics. It’s good for business. One of the few sectors still thriving.

  8. Bentnotesmanhisself said,

    February 4, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    Re: the US being the only industrialized nation not to have universal health care: that’s good. It means we still have a modicum of sense unlike the others with their worse problems than ours.
    Health care is not a right. Not anything like it. It’s a service, pure and simple, like getting a hair cut or getting your suit pressed or getting the oil in your car changed.
    These attempts to portray some national problem as so dire that it’s time to do away with free-market principles and have the government take over don’t work here at BN.

  9. Bentnotesmanhisself said,

    February 4, 2009 at 4:46 pm

    “Associating it with socialism.” It ain’t some kind of fabricated association. It is socialism.

  10. Bentnotesmanhisself said,

    February 4, 2009 at 5:06 pm

    “Plan to assist Americans.” Well, since you know I don’t want the government “assisting” anybody, my personal plan is to encourage people to see that living a healthy lifestyle is a matter of personal responsibility, to think long and hard about whether to go to the doctor or hospital every time there’s a health glitch, and to start a personal savings account for medical expenses. And also to lobby, exhort and cajole the government to lower taxes as I say in my latest post, “TCM, blackmail artist.”
    And if you are fairly healthy don’t load up on the deluxe insurance package.

  11. MR. Dings said,

    February 5, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Are you saying that you don’t have the $500.00 to $1000.00 a mo. to spend on health insurance either? Hope you don’t need one of those loser triple bypasses, get hit by a truck or catch some bug. That only happens to losers, slackers who don’t take care of their health, eh? Good genes helps too. Lucky you then.

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