Thinking that you were alone is a problem here. who likes taxes? There is much more on the plate of the partiers than taxes. You might not get your neo revolution this way, though. That is why I am not going to Donner Park tonight at 6:00 pm. Then again, maybe I might. Just to check out the energy there. And find out what other issues, like Obama speaking at ND, are on the table here. Over half the federal budget goes for military spending anyhow. And that is certainly likely to increase with renewed efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I know you love it! More more more, when that is what it’s for!
Chilly evening, 6 o’clock, estimated 800 people there, few youngsters, lotsa grey, not a black face that I saw, but then again, this is Columbus, Indiana, about a dozen placards, only one of which bore the word Obama, speakers were an 11 year old who stole the show, an employee of the Bartholomew Co. Clerk’s office, a new citizen (from Germany) who has lived here for years but just decided to become a citizen within the year (why should I listen to him, but he was energetic (likely works for Cummins), a guy who spoke too long in the cold about the Fair Tax (national retail sales tax, we could look that up if we wanted to, one of many alternatives), and, finally, the charismatic and popular Congressman Pence. Opened with a prayer and the pledge of allegiance. Cheers from the crowd whenever the military was mentioned. All of this interspersed with quotes from the Founding Fathers, especially Jefferson. Bail-outs and pork-laden stimuli bewailed. A couple loudmouths in the crowd. Most telling moment for me was when I was walking to the park shelter and a man asked me where I had parked. After I told him he replied, as he drove off: “Buy a gun, piss off a libertarian. He caught himself and said, I mean, a liberal. That’s my story. Pics on facebook.
The Co. clerk’s office employee’s voice quaked as she spoke of her hubby losing his job of 22 years. Also speaking was Travis Hankins of Columbus who said he was a candidate for the 9th District (Baron Hill) of Congress. He decried term limits (where have I heard that one before?)
Yet, I find this forum useful and Lord knows I’ve tried to hook people onto here, but, alas, the world is filled with things to do and to undo, today I choose a taoist way, where the thousand things are here to see and I will just let it all be.
Cut and pasted commentary from Mr. Dings on the current federal and local tax issues here and now:
I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, but here is an elaboration, just to warm up my technical virtuosity (typing) or more like hair of dog of internet which bit me the night before, here this morning.
From what I get, there will still be taxes (always and forever?) , but the singular idea promoted at the local TEA party was the implementation of a national retail sales tax which the speaker said had been researched by Ivy Leaguers at the cost of hundreds of millions of dolla, (which certainly impressed me, how ’bout chew?). And he briefly mentioned the obvious objections which come to mind, but insisted, for instance, that 2nd hand stuff won’t be taxed at the usual 28%, if I heard him correctly. That still ain’t gonna affect how we spend it. And, if current trends hold, that is over half on military matters, past (Vet bennies–they’re the first to be provided for in their dotage) and present. Every addict knows the mind reels at a potentially more benign palliative.
A glaring lesson of history has been that the spreading of ones’ foreign entanglements and engagements too thickly (definitely not Tao, certainly not Christ-like) eventually leads to terminal bleeding of hues both the red and green. Why the hoops and hollers from the peanut gallery when Uncle Sam’s camo, blue and gold are touted?
Ahh, death and taxes: each perceived as inevitable, but, as long as it’s the other guy, well, hip hip horray! As we all realize, though, as Truman once said: “It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.”
So ironic that we have a ridiculous and terribly timed local remonstrance that is surely going to be massively shut-down, at the same time as we have such serious (and justified) objections to some of the ways the last Federal administration began to spend the peoples’ $$ in this economic fall-out we’re all reeling from (bail-outs and ill-conceived and executed wars). More local control as envisioned by the Founding Fathers is the only answer I can think of, unless it’s the blessed outcome of some benevolent anarchy as a result of the global village enabled by the evolution of our cybercapabilities and we are certainly about to demonstrate the efficacy of each right here now in our fine little town.
The TEA parties were about much more than taxes, and, at it’s core, it’s ugly. But as ole Tom Paine once injected: “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself.”
Mr. Dings said,
April 15, 2009 at 9:11 pm
Thinking that you were alone is a problem here. who likes taxes? There is much more on the plate of the partiers than taxes. You might not get your neo revolution this way, though. That is why I am not going to Donner Park tonight at 6:00 pm. Then again, maybe I might. Just to check out the energy there. And find out what other issues, like Obama speaking at ND, are on the table here. Over half the federal budget goes for military spending anyhow. And that is certainly likely to increase with renewed efforts in Afghanistan and Pakistan. I know you love it! More more more, when that is what it’s for!
Mr. Dings said,
April 16, 2009 at 12:11 am
Chilly evening, 6 o’clock, estimated 800 people there, few youngsters, lotsa grey, not a black face that I saw, but then again, this is Columbus, Indiana, about a dozen placards, only one of which bore the word Obama, speakers were an 11 year old who stole the show, an employee of the Bartholomew Co. Clerk’s office, a new citizen (from Germany) who has lived here for years but just decided to become a citizen within the year (why should I listen to him, but he was energetic (likely works for Cummins), a guy who spoke too long in the cold about the Fair Tax (national retail sales tax, we could look that up if we wanted to, one of many alternatives), and, finally, the charismatic and popular Congressman Pence. Opened with a prayer and the pledge of allegiance. Cheers from the crowd whenever the military was mentioned. All of this interspersed with quotes from the Founding Fathers, especially Jefferson. Bail-outs and pork-laden stimuli bewailed. A couple loudmouths in the crowd. Most telling moment for me was when I was walking to the park shelter and a man asked me where I had parked. After I told him he replied, as he drove off: “Buy a gun, piss off a libertarian. He caught himself and said, I mean, a liberal. That’s my story. Pics on facebook.
Nobody likes taxes that I know of.
Mr. Dings said,
April 16, 2009 at 3:34 am
The Co. clerk’s office employee’s voice quaked as she spoke of her hubby losing his job of 22 years. Also speaking was Travis Hankins of Columbus who said he was a candidate for the 9th District (Baron Hill) of Congress. He decried term limits (where have I heard that one before?)
Mr. Dings said,
April 16, 2009 at 4:44 pm
Shall I be a man (grown-up) and take a stand?
Bentnotesmanhisself said,
April 16, 2009 at 7:09 pm
Eventually the universe will insist on it.
Mr. Dings said,
April 16, 2009 at 7:37 pm
I figured…..
Mr. Dings said,
April 16, 2009 at 8:13 pm
Yet, I find this forum useful and Lord knows I’ve tried to hook people onto here, but, alas, the world is filled with things to do and to undo, today I choose a taoist way, where the thousand things are here to see and I will just let it all be.
Mr. Dings said,
April 17, 2009 at 12:01 am
High on the hill the battle raging below in fear i turn to my god who says to join the show but what do i know it’s all been done befo
Mr. Dings said,
April 17, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Cut and pasted commentary from Mr. Dings on the current federal and local tax issues here and now:
I repeat myself when under stress, I repeat myself when under stress, but here is an elaboration, just to warm up my technical virtuosity (typing) or more like hair of dog of internet which bit me the night before, here this morning.
From what I get, there will still be taxes (always and forever?) , but the singular idea promoted at the local TEA party was the implementation of a national retail sales tax which the speaker said had been researched by Ivy Leaguers at the cost of hundreds of millions of dolla, (which certainly impressed me, how ’bout chew?). And he briefly mentioned the obvious objections which come to mind, but insisted, for instance, that 2nd hand stuff won’t be taxed at the usual 28%, if I heard him correctly. That still ain’t gonna affect how we spend it. And, if current trends hold, that is over half on military matters, past (Vet bennies–they’re the first to be provided for in their dotage) and present. Every addict knows the mind reels at a potentially more benign palliative.
A glaring lesson of history has been that the spreading of ones’ foreign entanglements and engagements too thickly (definitely not Tao, certainly not Christ-like) eventually leads to terminal bleeding of hues both the red and green. Why the hoops and hollers from the peanut gallery when Uncle Sam’s camo, blue and gold are touted?
Ahh, death and taxes: each perceived as inevitable, but, as long as it’s the other guy, well, hip hip horray! As we all realize, though, as Truman once said: “It’s a recession when your neighbor loses his job; it’s a depression when you lose your own.”
So ironic that we have a ridiculous and terribly timed local remonstrance that is surely going to be massively shut-down, at the same time as we have such serious (and justified) objections to some of the ways the last Federal administration began to spend the peoples’ $$ in this economic fall-out we’re all reeling from (bail-outs and ill-conceived and executed wars). More local control as envisioned by the Founding Fathers is the only answer I can think of, unless it’s the blessed outcome of some benevolent anarchy as a result of the global village enabled by the evolution of our cybercapabilities and we are certainly about to demonstrate the efficacy of each right here now in our fine little town.
The TEA parties were about much more than taxes, and, at it’s core, it’s ugly. But as ole Tom Paine once injected: “He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself.”
Not exactly Tao or agape, but, hey, it’s karma.
Bentnotesmanhisself said,
April 17, 2009 at 5:36 pm
I’m for local control of that which can be controlled locally.